From faces-request Mon Jan 29 11:36:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/IUCS_2.29) with ESMTP id LAA29991 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:36:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/IUCS_2.29) id LAA06962 for faces-distrib; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:36:48 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.INDIANA.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28677 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/IUCS_2.29) with ESMTP id LAA06893 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/IUCS_2.29) with ESMTP id LAA29976 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu [141.211.82.200]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/IUCS_2.29) with ESMTP id LAA06890 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA28667; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:36:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:36:09 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Kinzler Message-Id: <200101291636.LAA28667@alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu> To: "G.B.A. Webmaster" Cc: faces@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: another mail client with faces support References: Content-Type: text Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu Sent 26Jan01 from webmaster@gbamed.com to kinzler +---------- another mail client with faces support ---------- | Hi, I saw your web page listing mailers etc. that support faces, and | thought you might like to know that one of the more popular mail | clients for the Newton hand-held computer, SimpleMail, has faces | support, and it's freeware to boot. You can see more info at: | http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/road/aah66/ | I have nothing to do with the production or distribution of | SimpleMail, I'm just a user of it. Cool. I've added it to the Faces Archive page. Thanks for the notice! -- from the brain of Steve Kinzler /o)\ kinzler@cs.indiana.edu an organ with a mind of its own \(o/ www.cs.indiana.edu/~kinzler Betel detection / lactase diaphone crystallite / Sisyphus carbine. From faces-request Thu Aug 2 08:31:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4/IUCS_2.33) with ESMTP id f72DVlt14207 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4/IUCS_2.33) id f72DVkc12842 for faces-distrib; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:31:46 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25219 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4/IUCS_2.33) with ESMTP id f71Eg3816805 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4/IUCS_2.33) with ESMTP id f71Eg1817227 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from matthews.dairiki.org (IDENT:root@c371243-a.sttln1.wa.home.com [24.20.55.233]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4/IUCS_2.33) with ESMTP id f71Eg0816779 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from matthews.dairiki.org (dairiki@localhost) by matthews.dairiki.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f71Eg0U24426 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:42:00 -0700 Message-Id: <200108011442.f71Eg0U24426@matthews.dairiki.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 01/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: faces@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Annonce: On-line X-Face: generator and viewer. X-Face: >B(')h3n*M'Ey]Tx&[-v}0TK*0;jxCa*~1HNaXo5!wf{1"*6>{Q\(lO]@7_yL]fIb] xb\2& A~#obPS!V,+.;TFcr%6W1s`*x|]VM`oH1 Reply-To: dairiki@dairiki.org From: Jeff Dairiki X-Attribution: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 07:42:00 -0700 Original-Sender: dairiki@dairiki.org Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu Hi All, Have you ever struggled to find what exact pipeline of commands you needed to use to convert your {gif,jpg,xbm,...} into an X-Face: header? (Does giftopnm | ppmtopgm | pgmtopbm | pbmtoxbm | xbm2ikon | compface bring back memories?) I've just whipped together an on-line X-Face: converter which can be used to convert most common image types to an X-Face: header. (It will also convert X-Face: headers back to GIFs, so you can see what they look like.) Try it at: http://www.dairiki.org/xface/ Comments are most welcome. Best Regards, Jeff Dairiki PS For those who may not know: An X-Face: header allows you to include a 48x48 bitmap picon in the headers of your e-mails. Some (or "your better") e-mail clients can display these icons along with your message. This message has an X-Face: icon (which depicts my last name, "Dairiki", written in Japanese). From faces-request Mon Aug 6 13:05:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4/IUCS_2.33) with ESMTP id f76I5UJ12777 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:05:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4/IUCS_2.33) id f76I5Ue05399 for faces-distrib; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:05:30 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13413 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 14:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4/IUCS_2.33) with ESMTP id f76I5AJ05371 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4/IUCS_2.33) with ESMTP id f76I58J12759 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu [141.211.82.200]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4/IUCS_2.33) with ESMTP id f76I57J05368 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id OAA13404; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 14:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 14:05:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Kinzler Message-Id: <200108061805.OAA13404@alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu> To: faces@cs.indiana.edu Subject: XFaces patch for useContentLength Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu The following patch for xfaces from Rob Henderson should get the XFaces.useContentLength resource working properly, tested under Solaris. *** mail_box.c Mon Aug 6 10:56:48 2001 --- mail_box.c.dist Sat Mar 12 19:38:43 1994 *************** *** 138,144 **** * We got a list of headers so skip the body. */ ! MailBodySkip(content_length+1); /* * If we used the content_length value then we should skip --- 138,144 ---- * We got a list of headers so skip the body. */ ! MailBodySkip(content_length); /* * If we used the content_length value then we should skip From faces-request Tue Nov 13 13:46:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fADIkiG28493 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:46:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fADIkiE05490 for faces-distrib; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:46:44 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10282 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:44:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fADIiUx05406 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fADIiUG28443 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fADIiTx05403 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:44:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from single.eng.sun.com ([129.144.177.34]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20296 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:44:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from stard (stard [129.144.172.181]) by single.eng.sun.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with SMTP id fADIiR803807 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:44:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111131844.fADIiR803807@single.eng.sun.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:44:27 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Burridge Reply-To: Rich Burridge Subject: Help needed with a new version of faces. To: faces@cs.indiana.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Md5: KwLzbwpbIniahiMGzuq/+g== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.4.2 SunOS 5.8 sun4u sparc Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu Hi all, Anybody interested in helping me get a new version of faces together? I noticed that it's been almost ten years since the last one, and I think it's time the code was updated. ;-) I've started work on this, but what with the pressures of RealWork(TM), I realise that I'm going to need help to finish this in a timely manner. The main things that I'd like to do are: * Add in support for XPM, keep support for XBM, and remove support for the other graphical formats. * Keep support for X11, but remove the other graphical versions (SunView, XView and NeWS). * Keep the mail monitoring and the ability to run a command and display the list of icons from that, but remove support for monitoring printers and users. The printer support under Solaris 2.x sucks, and besides it should be possible to provide this kind of thing via an external script (if it hasn't already done so). * Adjust the configuring/building to use automake and autoconf. * Add in IMAP support. * Adjust the [un]compface code to read/write to XBM files not the Blit ikon format. * Tidy up the code. Unix and C have becomes pretty much standardized over the last ten years. A lot of O/S'es have bit the dust, so the code can be a lot simpler. If you are interested in helping, I'll send you what I've got so far, and act as the central coordinator. When things are starting to come together, then I'll post an announcement of availability for testing to the faces mailing list. An example of how you can help.... I've got XPM support in, but I'm having some problems with the setting of the background of the image, that I'm spending far too much time on, trying to track down. I need a second pair of eyes on it. Thanks. PS: Here's a full list of what I've done so far, and what still needs to be done. ---- Changes made so far... v1.7 - patchlevel 0 - 13th November 2001. * Various changes to the code: - Adjusted to a consistent style (K&R). - Removed all tabs. - Removed support for X11R3, SunView 3.x, XView and NeWS. - Fixed up gcc warning and error messages. - Removed all unwanted files from the distribution (especially if there are files with similar functionality in the main faces/picons archives: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/ftp/faces/ - Adjusted references to the version number. - Adjusted to use ANSI function prototypes. - Ran the code through lint and fixed up most of the problems reported. - Removed the (null) save_cmdline() routine from x11.c and where it was called from (write_cmdline() in get.c). - Removed all P(...) references as we are only using ANSI function prototyping now. - Removed externs for standard library functions from the .h and .c files and replaced them with the correct #include files. - Removed the (null) make_icon() routine in x11.c, and where it was called from. - Removed references to the INLINE #ifdef. - Removed references to the TOPIX #ifdef. - Removed references to the RAND #ifdef. - Removed references to the SYSV #ifdef. - Removed references to the SYSTYPE_BSD43 #ifdef. - Removed references to the USE_BZERO #ifdef. - Removed references to the NOUTIME #ifdef. - Removed references to the NOMAXPATHLEN #ifdef. - Removed references to the NOGETHOSTNAME #ifdef. - Removed references to the SGIDEF and SGILIBS #ifdef's. - Removed references to the USE_GETWD #ifdef. - Removed references to the HASPOLL, NOSELECT and SELTYPE #ifdef's. - Removed all machine specific #ifdef's (hpux, ultrix, mips ...). - Removed the gr_type enum and all references to it. - Removed the not_flipped argument to the load_icon() routine in x11.c - Removed SunView, XView and NeWS specific todo entries from the TODO file. Same thing for entries refering to Blit ikon or Sun icon formatted files. - Removed all references to SUNTYPE and BLITTYPE. X11TYPE becomes XBMTYPE. Also fixed up the comment for the make_iconame() function in main.c - Removed references to NEWSTYPE, get_news_icon(), add_ps_rec(), psinfo and psrecs (NeWS icons are no longer supported). - Adjusted all index and rindex references to use strchr and strrchr and removed all references to the NOINDEX #ifdef. - Removed the get_display() function in main.c and merged the -d command line option extraction back into the get_options() function in get.c (as there are no longer SunView and XView version of faces with complex command line arguments). - Surronded all the .h files with #ifdef's to prevent definitions being reclared twice. Added 'extern "C" { }' for .h files that defined function prototypes. - Fixed up all the copyright messages. - Removed the -Wp, -WP and -Wi command line options from get_options() in get.c (which were used by the SunView and NeWS versions). Removed these entries from the manual pages. * Got the X11 version working under Solaris 2.x. * Added in support for XPM files (a standard format of the picons database). ---- Things still to do... * Run the code through lint. * Fixup the crash in searchfacedb in main.c when compiled with gcc and running "faces -a -c 15 -s /home/richb/Mail/out-mail". * Get the XPM file format fully working. * compface and uncompace should read/write XBM format file now. * Add in IMAP support. * Add in autoconf and automake support. * See if the support for printers and users can be removed (because the same functionality can be provided by user supplied programs). * See if we can remove the "update faces database" stuff (because the functionality is somewhere else). * See if we can remove the face_update.1 file from the distribution. * See if we can remove the scripts directory from the distribution. * See if we can remove the facedir directory from the distribution. * See if we can remove the filters directory from the distribution. * See if we can remove the xface directory from the distribution. * See if we can remove the compface directory from the distribution. * Will need to updates the faces.man file, and regenerate the faces.man.text file. * Will need to either fixup the maketar shell script, or if we have a version that uses autoconf and automake, then it can be removed. * Consider removing the people.tab and machine.tab files from the distribution, or creating empty files. * Get it working on RedHat Linux. From faces-request Sat Nov 17 11:24:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHGOhx03506 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fAHGOhG12167 for faces-distrib; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:24:43 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04497 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHGLVb12059 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHGLUx03466 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:21:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de (mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.254.101]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHGLTb12056 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de by mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de with ESMTP; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:21:27 +0100 Received: from geier (helo=localhost) by phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 1658Df-0002TA-00; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:21:27 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:21:24 +0100 (CET) From: Simon Richter To: Rich Burridge Cc: Subject: Re: Help needed with a new version of faces. In-Reply-To: <200111131844.fADIiR803807@single.eng.sun.com> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Original-Sender: Simon Richter Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Rich Burridge wrote: > Anybody interested in helping me get a new version of faces together? Interested, yes. Time for complex tasks, no. :-/ > * Add in support for XPM, keep support for XBM, and remove support for > the other graphical formats. PNG would be nice IMO. > * Adjust the configuring/building to use automake and autoconf. I can do that. > If you are interested in helping, I'll send you what I've got so far, > and act as the central coordinator. When things are starting to come > together, then I'll post an announcement of availability for testing > to the faces mailing list. What about a central CVS? > - Removed all tabs. Tabs are good IMO. > * Get it working on RedHat Linux. :-) A thing I would like to get integrated into a future version is remote picon databases. I've started a project on this (http://www.xfaces.de/), but I'm not really far yet. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: DC26 EB8D 1F35 4F44 2934 7583 DBB6 F98D 9198 3292 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! From faces-request Sat Nov 17 15:45:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHKjUx09293 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fAHKjUH20007 for faces-distrib; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:45:30 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA05769 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:35:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHKYwb19719 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHKYwx09105 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from milou.dyndns.org (h217n3fls22o974.telia.com [213.64.105.217]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHKYlb19707 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:34:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from milou.dyndns.org (ander@localhost) by milou.dyndns.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fAHKWEo00697; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:32:20 +0100 Message-Id: <200111172032.fAHKWEo00697@milou.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5_20010923 01/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Simon Richter Cc: Rich Burridge , faces@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: Help needed with a new version of faces. In-Reply-To: Message from Simon Richter of "Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:21:24 +0100." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:32:10 +0100 From: Anders Eriksson Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu I've been working a bit with faces support for the Exmh MUA. I'd be _very_ interested in the remote picon thing. I 2nd the vote for png support. /Anders >>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, "Simon" == Simon Richter wrote: Simon> On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Rich Burridge wrote: +> Anybody interested in helping me get a new version of faces +> together? Simon> Interested, yes. Time for complex tasks, no. :-/ +> * Add in support for XPM, keep support for XBM, and remove +> support for the other graphical formats. Simon> PNG would be nice IMO. +> * Adjust the configuring/building to use automake and autoconf. Simon> I can do that. +> If you are interested in helping, I'll send you what I've got so +> far, and act as the central coordinator. When things are starting +> to come together, then I'll post an announcement of availability +> for testing to the faces mailing list. Simon> What about a central CVS? +> - Removed all tabs. Simon> Tabs are good IMO. +> * Get it working on RedHat Linux. Simon> :-) Simon> A thing I would like to get integrated into a future version Simon> is remote picon databases. I've started a project on this Simon> (http://www.xfaces.de/), but I'm not really far yet. Simon> Simon Simon> -- GPG public key available from Simon> http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Simon> Fingerprint: DC26 EB8D 1F35 4F44 2934 7583 DBB6 F98D Simon> 9198 3292 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your Simon> ~/.signature to help me spread! From faces-request Sat Nov 17 18:11:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHNBKx12568 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fAHNBKp23863 for faces-distrib; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:11:20 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA06344 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHMBkb22411 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHMBkx11191 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from milou.dyndns.org (h217n3fls22o974.telia.com [213.64.105.217]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAHMBgb22408 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:11:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from milou.dyndns.org (ander@localhost) by milou.dyndns.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fAHMAaq15571; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:10:36 +0100 Message-Id: <200111172210.fAHMAaq15571@milou.dyndns.org> X-Authentication-Warning: milou.dyndns.org: ander owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5_20010923 01/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Simon Richter From: Anders Eriksson Cc: Rich Burridge , faces@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: Help needed with a new version of faces. In-Reply-To: Message from Simon Richter of "Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:21:24 +0100." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:10:36 +0100 Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu (better from address this time) I've been working a bit with faces support for the Exmh MUA. I'd be _very_ interested in the remote picon thing. I 2nd the vote for png support. /A >>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, "Simon" == Simon Richter wrote: Simon> On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Rich Burridge wrote: +> Anybody interested in helping me get a new version of faces +> together? Simon> Interested, yes. Time for complex tasks, no. :-/ +> * Add in support for XPM, keep support for XBM, and remove +> support for the other graphical formats. Simon> PNG would be nice IMO. +> * Adjust the configuring/building to use automake and autoconf. Simon> I can do that. +> If you are interested in helping, I'll send you what I've got so +> far, and act as the central coordinator. When things are starting +> to come together, then I'll post an announcement of availability +> for testing to the faces mailing list. Simon> What about a central CVS? +> - Removed all tabs. Simon> Tabs are good IMO. +> * Get it working on RedHat Linux. Simon> :-) Simon> A thing I would like to get integrated into a future version Simon> is remote picon databases. I've started a project on this Simon> (http://www.xfaces.de/), but I'm not really far yet. Simon> Simon Simon> -- GPG public key available from Simon> http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Simon> Fingerprint: DC26 EB8D 1F35 4F44 2934 7583 DBB6 F98D Simon> 9198 3292 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your Simon> ~/.signature to help me spread! From faces-request Sun Nov 18 09:50:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAIEoLu05116 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fAIEoKl20345 for faces-distrib; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:50:20 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA06965 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAI0VHb26158 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAI0VHx15226 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hempy.dhs.org (postfix@dsl-64-194-0-217.telocity.com [64.194.0.217]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAI0VGb26155 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by hempy.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 623) id 828049B54A; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 16:31:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 16:31:13 -0800 From: Ajay To: faces@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: Help needed with a new version of faces. Message-Id: <20011117163113.A18133@hempy.dhs.org> Reply-To: atallam@telocity.com References: <200111172210.fAHMAaq15571@milou.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.16i In-Reply-To: <200111172210.fAHMAaq15571@milou.dyndns.org>; from aer-list@MailAndNews.com on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 11:10:36PM +0100 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.14 on an i586 X-Cookie: Drive defensively. Buy a tank. X-Disclaimer: Why are you listening to me? Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu Moin Anders! Anders Eriksson schrieb am Samstag, den 17. November 2001: : :(better from address this time) : :I've been working a bit with faces support for the Exmh MUA. I'd be :_very_ interested in the remote picon thing. >-- End of excerpt from Anders Eriksson Two questions for you guys, first, why are all the messages from the list marked as 'read'??? ('Status: R') I hadn't noticed the original post to this thread at first because of this. In other news, I'm curious if anyone has any experience with faces support in mutt? I tried doing it manually (add_hdr X-Faces), but when I save the message it wraps it into one line, which doesn't work. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated! Yes, it'd be cool if it could somehow render them too, but one thing at a time. ;) -Ajay -- Milpitas, ca atallam@telocity.com HempVille, Planet Talarian http://os2man.cjb.net/pictures/ "Imagination is more important than knowledge." --Albert Einstein From faces-request Mon Nov 19 09:43:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJEhWe22747 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fAJEhWA10217 for faces-distrib; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:43:32 -0500 (EST) From: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA16686 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJ9MAU24772 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJ9M5u14634 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (sheridan.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.227]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJ9M4U24769 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssv2.dina.kvl.dk (ssv2.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.226]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA16745; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:20:08 +0100 Received: from abraham by ssv2.dina.kvl.dk with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 165kb2-0003jo-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:20:08 +0100 To: Simon Richter Cc: Rich Burridge , Subject: Re: Help needed with a new version of faces. References: Organization: The Church of Emacs X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ From: Per Abrahamsen Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:20:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Simon Richter's message of "Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:21:24 +0100 (CET)") Message-Id: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu Simon Richter writes: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Rich Burridge wrote: > >> * Add in support for XPM, keep support for XBM, and remove support for >> the other graphical formats. > > PNG would be nice IMO. Why? The files are so small that individual compression aren't likely to save significant amounts of space, so it just seem like an unnecesary complication and dependency. >> - Removed all tabs. > > Tabs are good IMO. Tab characters are a pestilence when doing multi-developer projects, especially if they use different editors or even different platforms. From faces-request Mon Nov 19 09:54:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJEsJe23212 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fAJEsJv10903 for faces-distrib; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:54:19 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18525 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:32:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJEWur09545 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:32:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJEWse22373 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:32:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de (mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.254.101]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJEWrr09538 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de by mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:32:23 +0100 Received: from geier (helo=localhost) by phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 165pTC-0006WR-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:32:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:32:20 +0100 (CET) From: Simon Richter To: Per Abrahamsen Cc: Rich Burridge , Subject: Re: Help needed with a new version of faces. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Original-Sender: Simon Richter Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Per Abrahamsen wrote: > > PNG would be nice IMO. > Why? The files are so small that individual compression aren't likely > to save significant amounts of space, so it just seem like an > unnecesary complication and dependency. I just tried with my picture: $ convert face.xpm face.png $ ls -l face.png face.xpm -rw-r--r-- 1 richtesi soft 1898 Nov 19 15:24 face.png -rw-r--r-- 1 richtesi soft 8757 May 25 16:44 face.xpm That is a factor of 4.613, at no quality loss. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: DC26 EB8D 1F35 4F44 2934 7583 DBB6 F98D 9198 3292 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! From faces-request Mon Nov 19 10:11:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJFBZe23687 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:11:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fAJFBZj12404 for faces-distrib; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:11:35 -0500 (EST) From: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19435 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJFAJr12323 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJFAIe23653 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (sheridan.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.227]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJFAHr12320 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssv2.dina.kvl.dk (ssv2.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.226]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA19472; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:08:17 +0100 Received: from abraham by ssv2.dina.kvl.dk with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 165q1x-0006lQ-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:08:17 +0100 To: Simon Richter Cc: Rich Burridge , Subject: Re: Help needed with a new version of faces. References: Organization: The Church of Emacs X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ From: Per Abrahamsen Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:08:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Simon Richter's message of "Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:32:20 +0100 (CET)") Message-Id: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu Simon Richter writes: > $ convert face.xpm face.png > $ ls -l face.png face.xpm > -rw-r--r-- 1 richtesi soft 1898 Nov 19 15:24 face.png > -rw-r--r-- 1 richtesi soft 8757 May 25 16:44 face.xpm > > That is a factor of 4.613, at no quality loss. The actual saving is not 4.613, but some round number that depends on the file system block size. If minimizing disk space is important (and I'm not sure it is), I think reading from an (compresed) archive file would be the way to go. From faces-request Mon Nov 19 10:36:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJFame24426 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:36:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fAJFamO14918 for faces-distrib; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:36:48 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19646 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJFaFr14890 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJFaEe24409 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de (mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.254.101]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJFaDr14887 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de by mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:31:22 +0100 Received: from geier (helo=localhost) by phobos.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 165qOI-0007Pu-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:31:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:31:18 +0100 (CET) From: Simon Richter To: Per Abrahamsen Cc: Rich Burridge , Subject: Re: Help needed with a new version of faces. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Original-Sender: Simon Richter Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Per Abrahamsen wrote: > The actual saving is not 4.613, but some round number that depends on > the file system block size. Assuming a block size of 1k, the factor would be 4.5, however most filesystems use the remaining pieces of blocks. > If minimizing disk space is important (and I'm not sure it is), I > think reading from an (compresed) archive file would be the way to go. My plan is to store PNG images inside a libdb database or an RDBMS. Simon -- GPG public key available from http://phobos.fs.tum.de/pgp/Simon.Richter.asc Fingerprint: DC26 EB8D 1F35 4F44 2934 7583 DBB6 F98D 9198 3292 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! From faces-request Mon Nov 19 11:00:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJG0qe24964 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:00:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fAJG0p517166 for faces-distrib; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:00:51 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA20411 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJG00r17007 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJG00e24939 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from lin2.andrew.cmu.edu (LIN2.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.6.35]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fAJFxxr17002 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:59:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix15.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX15.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.11.215]) by lin2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.12.2.Beta1/8.12.2.Beta1) with SMTP id fAJFxvFI015843 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:59:57 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:59:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200111191559.fAJFxvFI015843@lin2.andrew.cmu.edu> From: Brian E Gallew X-Mailer: BatIMail version 3.2 To: faces@cs.indiana.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Help needed with a new version of faces. References: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pgp-sign-Multipart_Mon_Nov_19_10:59:57_2001-1"; micalg=pgp-md5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu --pgp-sign-Multipart_Mon_Nov_19_10:59:57_2001-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Then spoke up and said: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Per Abrahamsen wrote: > > The actual saving is not 4.613, but some round number that depends on > > the file system block size. On-disk savings isn't everything. Network traffic is kind of important, too. --pgp-sign-Multipart_Mon_Nov_19_10:59:57_2001-1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.3, an Emacs/PGP interface iQBVAwUBO/ksfYdzVnzma+gdAQGBRgIAxG+EUCT4kYUKiowKKalewXIkzxKys3aV jiYlx8DQmWmlLWiNh4AHHTgyXkgiZ9LK7zRYPo13GxqdITbQyR/vQg== =j+iq -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --pgp-sign-Multipart_Mon_Nov_19_10:59:57_2001-1-- From faces-request Thu Dec 13 14:13:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fBDJDH606218 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fBDJDHs25300 for faces-distrib; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:13:17 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA08711 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fBCLZX022802 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.1.5] (h0030652e3d69.ne.mediaone.net [24.61.97.192]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fBCLaIQ28530 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:36:19 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: webmasta@mail.discordia.net Message-Id: X-Face: _W5|r?zqBqVq~"MtT'\-MVz<1{D0)yoy1Inf;K4ma7,gz|9;z)ZNtOmM Nb>h`Ei2IZrLWjMyn~(/fp&WJON_n/l#RfK}Mmijtm2"NK^%zGN}.vn+c}MmGf|~zpDF m#T.aBI|`kL8={;-f!U%q+TTa="nT4{3J|nCbo8BkAH96]{a|%'/1|s}p)I?"Si-`*e4 *:/@"tL Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:35:25 -0500 To: faces@cs.indiana.edu From: "G.B.A. Webmaster" Subject: x-faces in Mozilla Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu Hi, just wanted to know if you were aware that Mozilla now seems pretty close to implementing x-faces. This'll be great if it happens, because as Netscape 6 is being derived from Mozilla, millions of users will suddenly just start seeing the x-faces that have always been there but which they could never see before. It looks like all it may need is a testing plan; see: http://www.mozilla.org/quality/mailnews/tests/ for more details. If you know anyone who has such a plan, it could probably make it into the next Netscape release. From faces-request Thu Dec 13 14:40:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fBDJew607567 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fBDJewd27250 for faces-distrib; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:40:58 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19141 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:37:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fBDJb2F26999 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fBDJb1607439 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hank.lickey.com (sigsegv@hank.lickey.com [64.81.100.235]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fBDJb1F26996 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from squeaker.lickey.com (squeaker.lickey.com [192.168.100.10]) by hank.lickey.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96209EE2B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:36:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by squeaker.lickey.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CA6BF14 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:36:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by squeaker.lickey.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 24C23BF13; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:36:58 -0700 (MST) To: faces@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Creating a good looking x-face Mail-Followup-To: faces@cs.indiana.edu Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:36:51 -0700 Message-Id: <87ellysyi4.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA v0.43/Python 2.1.1 (linux2) From: "Matt Armstrong" X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu I have no artistic skill, and my efforts to create an x-face have all failed miserably. I see x-faces where I think "yeah, that is probably what that guy looks like." With the ones I've created from pictures of me, it is more like an abstract array of black and white pixels. Does anybody have a descent step-by-step guide for creating an x-face? Preferably, no hand pixel editing is required. -- matt From faces-request Thu Dec 13 14:59:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fBDJxD608076 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kinzler@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) id fBDJxDP28324 for faces-distrib; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:59:13 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.cs.indiana.edu: kinzler set sender to faces-request@cs.indiana.edu using -f Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19575 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (grouchy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.195]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fBDJv3F28209 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from moose.cs.indiana.edu (moose.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.254.191]) by grouchy.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fBDJv3607973 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu [141.211.82.200]) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/IUCS_2.43) with ESMTP id fBDJv2F28206 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:57:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id OAA19555; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:57:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:57:01 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Kinzler Message-Id: <200112131957.OAA19555@alamode.hmrc.kines.umich.edu> To: "Matt Armstrong" , faces@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: Creating a good looking x-face References: <87ellysyi4.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> Errors-To: faces-request@cs.indiana.edu Sent 13Dec01 from matt+dated+1008704217.949929 to faces +---------- Creating a good looking x-face ---------- | I have no artistic skill, and my efforts to create an x-face have all | failed miserably. I see x-faces where I think "yeah, that is probably | what that guy looks like." With the ones I've created from pictures | of me, it is more like an abstract array of black and white pixels. | Does anybody have a descent step-by-step guide for creating an x-face? | Preferably, no hand pixel editing is required. Try the Online X-Face Converter at http://www.dairiki.org/xface/ and play around with the various Conversion Options to get the best results. -- from the brain of Steve Kinzler /o)\ steve@kinzler.com an organ with a mind of its own \(o/ www.kinzler.com Diplosis Vulcan / apologue footslog echelon / succubus lifeguard.